Comments on: Week in Review – 6/22 to 6/28 http://runcolo.com/blog/week-in-review-%e2%80%93-622-to-62/ Tue, 03 Nov 2009 18:16:30 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.2 hourly 1 By: Alex aka "Run350" http://runcolo.com/blog/week-in-review-%e2%80%93-622-to-62/comment-page-1/#comment-1015 Alex aka "Run350" Tue, 30 Jun 2009 19:32:39 +0000 http://runcolo.com/blog/?p=2055#comment-1015 Sorry to hear your Achilles has been off / on bothering you. Hope it settles down soon. Have you tried Arnica gel? Sorry to hear your Achilles has been off / on bothering you. Hope it settles down soon. Have you tried Arnica gel?

]]> By: Dumprunner http://runcolo.com/blog/week-in-review-%e2%80%93-622-to-62/comment-page-1/#comment-1014 Dumprunner Tue, 30 Jun 2009 18:01:48 +0000 http://runcolo.com/blog/?p=2055#comment-1014 Runworks is probably not too far off. I ran a sea level 5k in 17:53 a few years back (my bro live in CT). 3 weeks later I ran an 18:15 5k here which is close to what the prediction would be. Runworks is probably not too far off. I ran a sea level 5k in 17:53 a few years back (my bro live in CT). 3 weeks later I ran an 18:15 5k here which is close to what the prediction would be.

]]> By: Administrator http://runcolo.com/blog/week-in-review-%e2%80%93-622-to-62/comment-page-1/#comment-1013 Administrator Tue, 30 Jun 2009 17:50:54 +0000 http://runcolo.com/blog/?p=2055#comment-1013 Using the runworks.com calculator a 17:56 5k at 5,280 feet in altitude is equivalent to a 17:36 5k at sea level. Thus, Evergreen is probably rather close to running at sea level if we use Matt as a baseline. Using the runworks.com calculator a 17:56 5k at 5,280 feet in altitude is equivalent to a 17:36 5k at sea level.

Thus, Evergreen is probably rather close to running at sea level if we use Matt as a baseline.

]]> By: Dumprunner http://runcolo.com/blog/week-in-review-%e2%80%93-622-to-62/comment-page-1/#comment-1012 Dumprunner Tue, 30 Jun 2009 17:33:03 +0000 http://runcolo.com/blog/?p=2055#comment-1012 I do have some good comparisons for the years I ran some downhill races. I think the superior downhill mile is a gimmick race. I ran a 4:44 in 2007- later that summer I only managed a 5:11 on the track. Evergreen Town Race 2008- I ran a 5k at Wash Park 3 weeks before in 17:56, my 5k time at Evergreen was 17:25. I can’t say I ever felt the altitude but I think you do get a boost from the downhill. I can’t speak to the 10k. (although I plan on running it this year) I do have some good comparisons for the years I ran some downhill races.

I think the superior downhill mile is a gimmick race. I ran a 4:44 in 2007- later that summer I only managed a 5:11 on the track.

Evergreen Town Race 2008- I ran a 5k at Wash Park 3 weeks before in 17:56, my 5k time at Evergreen was 17:25. I can’t say I ever felt the altitude but I think you do get a boost from the downhill. I can’t speak to the 10k. (although I plan on running it this year)

]]> By: Administrator http://runcolo.com/blog/week-in-review-%e2%80%93-622-to-62/comment-page-1/#comment-1011 Administrator Tue, 30 Jun 2009 17:26:56 +0000 http://runcolo.com/blog/?p=2055#comment-1011 I have no problem with anyone who wants to use Pikes Peak Marathon as a PR! I think the Platte River Half Marathon drops maybe 200 or so feet in elevation, but even that little amount I can tell makes it a faster course. My guess is if Platte Half dropped another 100 feet it would be on par with running at sea level. I'm just going off my time this year and my PR in the Half which was run at sea level. I have no problem with anyone who wants to use Pikes Peak Marathon as a PR!

I think the Platte River Half Marathon drops maybe 200 or so feet in elevation, but even that little amount I can tell makes it a faster course.

My guess is if Platte Half dropped another 100 feet it would be on par with running at sea level. I’m just going off my time this year and my PR in the Half which was run at sea level.

]]> By: jmock http://runcolo.com/blog/week-in-review-%e2%80%93-622-to-62/comment-page-1/#comment-1010 jmock Tue, 30 Jun 2009 17:22:26 +0000 http://runcolo.com/blog/?p=2055#comment-1010 Pikes Peak Marathon starts and finishes in the same place. Net elevation gain = 0. I think you're just going to have to answer the challenge and go run one of these. Sub 17 at Evergreen. Pikes Peak Marathon starts and finishes in the same place. Net elevation gain = 0.

I think you’re just going to have to answer the challenge and go run one of these. Sub 17 at Evergreen.

]]> By: Administrator http://runcolo.com/blog/week-in-review-%e2%80%93-622-to-62/comment-page-1/#comment-1009 Administrator Tue, 30 Jun 2009 17:13:19 +0000 http://runcolo.com/blog/?p=2055#comment-1009 Toby, I would say a fair course is any race that starts and finishes in the same location. A point to point course can still be run at the same elevation, but due to winds, etc. may not be "fair." If you had a 25mph wind to your back for 26.2 miles, my guess is that would improve your time by at least five minutes. Toby, I would say a fair course is any race that starts and finishes in the same location.

A point to point course can still be run at the same elevation, but due to winds, etc. may not be “fair.” If you had a 25mph wind to your back for 26.2 miles, my guess is that would improve your time by at least five minutes.

]]> By: Administrator http://runcolo.com/blog/week-in-review-%e2%80%93-622-to-62/comment-page-1/#comment-1008 Administrator Tue, 30 Jun 2009 17:09:10 +0000 http://runcolo.com/blog/?p=2055#comment-1008 Not saying that the race is easy or knocking it, but I am guessing that the downhill aspect of it more than makes up for running a race at sea level. But you're right that it is the closest thing to running at sea level for us Colorado Runners without having to drive to Nebraska. Looking at the results last year in the 5k, other runners that I know were running ~30 seconds faster than normal, that's quite a bit. Not sure you would see those results at sea level. My problem is I don't think it's fair for runners to say you PR'd on a course like that. It's like Albert Pujols using an aluminum bat and then saying he hit 93 homers in a season. Slacker Half Marathon has >2k elevation drop, that's insane. Not saying that the race is easy or knocking it, but I am guessing that the downhill aspect of it more than makes up for running a race at sea level. But you’re right that it is the closest thing to running at sea level for us Colorado Runners without having to drive to Nebraska.

Looking at the results last year in the 5k, other runners that I know were running ~30 seconds faster than normal, that’s quite a bit. Not sure you would see those results at sea level.

My problem is I don’t think it’s fair for runners to say you PR’d on a course like that. It’s like Albert Pujols using an aluminum bat and then saying he hit 93 homers in a season.

Slacker Half Marathon has >2k elevation drop, that’s insane.

]]> By: toby http://runcolo.com/blog/week-in-review-%e2%80%93-622-to-62/comment-page-1/#comment-1007 toby Tue, 30 Jun 2009 17:04:26 +0000 http://runcolo.com/blog/?p=2055#comment-1007 Unless it is on a track. PRs are always course specific. What is a fair course anyway? Unless it is on a track. PRs are always course specific.

What is a fair course anyway?

]]> By: ARich http://runcolo.com/blog/week-in-review-%e2%80%93-622-to-62/comment-page-1/#comment-1006 ARich Tue, 30 Jun 2009 16:52:32 +0000 http://runcolo.com/blog/?p=2055#comment-1006 I would be very careful about knocking Evergreen. Simon Martin did that last year before the race in his blog, and ran the race and had a different outlook after it. You need to keep in mind that running in Colorado is hard enough and races like Evergreen are the closest thing to being able to run at sea level for most of us. Evergreen also starts at 7500+ ft so its not fair to say its easy. These races are not gimmick races and offer the challenge of being able to be a good downhill runner. I am not great at downhill but still enjoy them. I would be very careful about knocking Evergreen. Simon Martin did that last year before the race in his blog, and ran the race and had a different outlook after it. You need to keep in mind that running in Colorado is hard enough and races like Evergreen are the closest thing to being able to run at sea level for most of us. Evergreen also starts at 7500+ ft so its not fair to say its easy. These races are not gimmick races and offer the challenge of being able to be a good downhill runner. I am not great at downhill but still enjoy them.

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